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I absolutely LOVE your idea of creating this scrapbook.
This is a great way of answering questions that come up a lot. 
Ron Landis ...Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:59:06
ScrapBook Subjects
Link: Looking Ahead And Dreaming Sweet Dreams
Link: Ron Landis' Aluminum Carving Of A Hobo
Link: Lots Of New Stuff On The Way
Link: Keep Your Eyes Open!
Link: A Dramatic Difference In Lighting
Link: [ Steve Adams' OHNS Aluminum Hobo Carving ]
Link: SunRoom: A Six Week PLUS Project
Link: [ Nickel Carver's Silver Signature Rounds ]
Link: Taking Things On Faith
Link: [ Progress... I guess... ?:-) ]
Link: A Plethora Of Die Cracks
Link: [ Another Wonderful Critter Carving ]
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Silver Half Disme - 17.5mm
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Hayes Specimen
  • Looking Ahead And Dreaming Sweet Dreams
       Last night I dreamed I found several wooden boxes in a storage building containing all of Ron Landis' personal and museum display specimens. I got so excited I woke up with my heart pounding and drenched in sweat. The GMM archive of ten of each of their creations wasn't included in my dream. Perhaps this is because Ron's non-COPY medals, tokens and other exonumia are my first love while his regular coinage COPY recreations are my second love. I suppose all this came to pass because I had spent several hours just before retiring researching Half Dismes and Dismes and looking ahead to Ron's recreations of same. I don't know whether Ron will be creating his specimens in copper or silver but I sure am looking forward to seeing them.
       Talk about RARE and beautiful specimens! The Half Disme was struck in silver but there is one specimen struck in copper according to R.S.Yeoman. The Disme appears to be the more difficult piece with 15 known in copper and 3 known in silver as recorded in the same source. Speaking of sources... just type "Disme" in your search engine and stand back. There are a number of informative websites that explore this interesting coinage. The three that I found the most interesting were; 1) the University of Notre Dame's "The Coins of Colonial and Early America" The Half Disme of 1792, 2) the CoinSite's "Historical Reference from the NGC PHOTO PROOF Series" 1792 HALF DISME and 3) the Professional Coin Grading Service's The 1792 Copper Disme: The Story of the Finest Known Specimen. EMail:Verne R. Walrafen
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    Copper Disme - 23mm

A Kenneth Bressett photograph.
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1996 Landis Carving #131
133mm Aluminum Carving
  • Ron Landis' Aluminum Carving Of A Hobo
       I sure enough do have the oversize Hobo that Ron Landis carved. My wife gave it to me as a birthday present and I am very proud of it. Never expected such a wonderful gift. It was carved over one of those stock aluminum "paper weights", with a drill. It is 5.25" in diameter. Ron signed and numbered it on the reverse in 1996. "Berty" is my wife's nickname. Kenneth Bressett...Sunday, October 20, 2002 6:13PM
       I want to thank Ken for sharing this carving with us. I know many of Ron's longtime fans have other interesting creations out there that we would all LOVE to see. I sure could use your help in keeping this ScrapBook interesting and expanding. EMail:Verne R. Walrafen

  • Lots Of New Stuff On The Way

       Gallery Mint Museum Building: I know it seems like we're not doing a whole lot, but in reality, we've been making great strides toward the museum project. We just paid off three of our loans from the money earned on the 49er project, and just put our current property up for sale. I am spending more time at the drafting table, designing the new museum and all the parts that will make it work, including the big drop hammer which will be installed in the lobby of the museum. It is coming along nicely, the wood gears are being made now.

       1850 $10 Gold: We have completed our part in the "49er horseman commemorative" - a reproduction of the 1850 Baldwin $10. Royal Canadian Mint is just now finishing them up, and you should see tons of promotion on it in the next few weeks. I don't have an image or example of the coin, but there should be good images on the web soon. I am having a time trying to get the new web site going. The biggest holdup is trying to get decent images. I'm still not happy with the ones I get from my camera, so I may start shopping for a nice scanner, or just hire a professional coin photographer.

       Jefferson Nickel Pattern: Darrell Crane has instructed me to send you one each of the new Jefferson nickels, but I am waiting until we get the planchet size adjusted so I can send fully struck examples. You should have them next week. This was a monster project for me that took an incredible amount of time. Architecture is really difficult for me. It's like freehand machining, and very difficult to keep all the lines straight, and planes flat.
    ( Darrell sent me the photos, here on the right, of the original Felix Schlag plaster molds. )

       First U.S.Mint Issues: The 1792 disme and 1792 half disme is in the works, but is still a few weeks out.

       Nickel Carvings: I have scans of two recent hobo carvings that I would like to send you, but first I need to get permission from the owner. They are really quite nice, with #200 being a milestone piece, I ended up spending way too much time on it. It is a very detailed and exact steam engine, and #201 is another Indian skull, my fifth one to date, and the third in this recent series done under microscope and with an anatomically correct skull that I used as the model.

       Hobo Tokens: Next after that is to get all the new hobo tokens going.
    ( This includes the 2003 GMM tokens, the 2003 Original Hobo Nickel Society tokens and the 2002 OHNS Publishing tokens for those authors who contributed to Bo-Tales this year. )

       FUN2003: Then I must start gearing up for FUN show in January. I'd like to have a small handful of carvings by then since I missed the deadline for the OHNS auction.

       Denver Coin Press Restoration: I might be able to supply you with a few digital images of the Denver coining press which is almost completely restored now. Ron Landis...Saturday, October 19, 2002 2:53PM

       I know that other projects are constantly vying for Ron's attention and he is peddling as hard as he can. It is just that his adoring fans get impatient for the wonderful creations from his bench and who could honestly blame us? EMail:Verne R. Walrafen

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  • Keep Your Eyes Open!
       I really need your help! Please keep your eyes open for any advertisements or news articles about the Baldwin & Company 1850 TEN DOLLARS - Horseman Type recreations from the imagination workshop in Eureka Springs. I know Ron has been working hard on a set of dies for recreating the $10 shown here (this is a genuine specimen and not Ron's modern recreation.) If you can direct me to any online information on Ron's Horseman $10 it would be particularly helpful.
       For those of you who may be interested in the history of the Horseman $10 here is some super material I captured from The Harry W. Bass, Jr. Collection - Part III, 26 May 2000 catalogue, Link:Lot 756. (This COOL research is NOT mine but was done by the firm who sold the Bass collection. I can't put my finger on which firm that was at this moment as the mainpage for the online catalogue is no longer posted.) EMail:Verne R. Walrafen
       Clifford Bolling just pointed me to Link:Jewels of the Bass Collection by Cathy L. Clark, assistant editor of THE NUMISMATIST, which says (in part): Upon his death in 1998, the collection was willed to the Harry Bass Jr. Research Foundation, a nonprofit charitable trust, which retained a care collection representative of its founder's numismatic interests and activities. (The remainder was sold in a series of four public sales conducted by Auctions by Bowers and Merena of Wolfeboro, New Hampshire, that generated funding for the Foundation's various charitable programs.)

    WWW-Link:Monaco Financial
      WWW-Link:Ship Of Gold - Historical Relics, An Epic Story and Own a Treasure  
    WWW-Link:Ship of Gold - Journey Through History
    SB-Link:Keep Your Eyes Open!
    SB-Link:Our First Glimpse Of The Horseman
    SB-Link:Still Watching For The Horseman
    SB-Link:Presented by Monaco Financial, LLC
    SB-Link:A horse is a horse, of course, of course
    SB-Link:Brother... Can You Spare A Fifty?

A Clifford Bolling photograph.
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  • A Dramatic Difference In Lighting  
       This is one of the best of the Gallery MInt coin replicas, a limited mintage 1796 Proof $1, # 847 of 1000 minted. This issue sold out very quickly and rarely shows up on the after market. The photo shows this piece both in cameo and brilliant, shows the same coin in two different lighting positions. Clifford D. Bolling...Thursday Oct-17-02 20:20:05
       It is nice to see Cliff offering this superb specimen on eBay as I write this SBsubject. Cliff has provided us with many excellent scans of Gallery Mint creations... THANKS Cliff! EMail:Verne R. Walrafen
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HUGE 131mm Aluminum Carving
with Nickel Carving on HatBand
Steve Adams' OHNS FUN2003 Aluminum Carving
   Day 1: I got to thinking after your email about using aircraft quality aluminum. That stuff machines well. The host token shown below {UpperLeft} isn't that kind of quality, however it should machine I thought. After hours of frustration, it was obvious I was getting nowhere fast. I had to clean the aluminum stuck on my chisel every two or three cuts. !!#!**!#!!!X/@!! Yeah it was that bad. So it was off to the milling machine, where I locked the piece down and basically free handed what you see below {UpperCenterLeft}. Two days work in one hour. Now I'm about to start the hand work. Probably three to four days I'd guess. Steven G. Adams...Saturday, September 21, 2002 2:18PM
   Day 2: Consider this day two of the project. Even though it is only 6:30AM on Sunday morning, I spent a good deal of time yesterday working on this {UpperCenterRight}. I am trying to squeeze three days of work into a two day weekend. You can see chisel marks over much of the surface now, and some grinding marks from using my flex shaft. I dipped into some die making supplies as this was such a big piece. I am not ashamed to say it either. Sam or Ron would probably understand the problem of material removal here. I have vast experience in working on dies much larger than this, but I'd pick steel over this gummy aluminum anytime. Right now there is aluminum all around my pantomill, and on my work bench. I saved some scrap in a small tube to send along with the piece. Might make for interesting conversation. Perhaps I can get another 10 or more hours in on it today. Why else would I get up this early on a Sunday. Fishing? No, the weather did not cooperate. Steven G. Adams...Sunday, September 22, 2002 6:38AM
   Day 3: Getting up early has paid off. I think this {UpperRight} has shown some progress today. Consider this the end of day three. I'll stick another 3 hours in today, but there won't be a dramatic change. Look for a day four scan by mid week, then I'll put the insert in. Steven G. Adams...Sunday, September 22, 2002 2:57PM
   Day 4: This {LowerLeft} is half way through day four. A little refining in spots, beard in, hair almost done, pupil to eye, hat band and bow started, more modeling on the ear, and insert area milled out. Now it needs an eyebrow, detailing, and of course finishing. It will be on to the insert carving then. Two carvings in one. A unique purchase for someone. I hope these two combined carvings do well. Even if a person doesn't necessarily like the big one as a carving, they could still consider it a one of a kind Hobo Nickel display for any carving they choose to put in it. The carving I send with it won't be anything fancy. In engravers time this would cost about $1,600, so I hope it is halfway successful at the auction. I think I'll stick with donating actual nickel carvings from now on. Steven G. Adams...Monday, September 23, 2002 3:46PM
   Day 5: This {LowerCenterLeft} is pretty much it as far as the aluminum carving is concerned. A tough battle, and I'm glad its over. I'll do a simple hobo carving tomorrow for the insert area. By the way, take notice of the nose job, as well as the new detail. Steven G. Adams...Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:02PM
   Day 6: Shown both above and below {LowerCenterRight} is the final carving with insert. I told you the insert {LowerRight} wouldn't be anything fancy, but I left the date and LIBERTY. I considered the fact that that you might bid on this puppy. It is pressure fitted into the big carving, but can be removed if needed. The insert is placed so that the date will be level when the larger sits in its stand. If whoever buys this at the Fun auction wants to rotate it, they have that option. They may want to ask me how to get it out though, I would hate to see it get screwed up. Project hours are about 50, and I'm going to bed early tonight for a change. Steven G. Adams...Wednesday, September 25, 2002 5:30PM
Fantastic ear!
I've never seen a better one.
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   Project Overview: I dare not tell the public my total experience with the aluminum carving for fear I might be perceived as a person who complains too much. The truth is, it was not fun, but at the same time I knew I was probably best equipped to handle the job. As you know, the material was poor, and that is not anyone's fault. Considering the holes in the material, I'd have to say it turned out pretty decent. No one should ever think about buffing this thing, because they would truly be sorry with the results. I had it smoother at one time, but the pitting was much too obvious. If you wish to tell the public anything, say it was a tough and time consuming job. Nearly 50 hours were spent to create it, and it is truly a unique piece. The largest hobo nickel carving ever? I don't know for a fact, but unique for sure. It does however hold a real hobo nickel carving with LIBERTY and the date remaining. And you know how often I leave LIBERTY; only occasionally. My hope is that the work will help bring in some money, that is why I am glad to offer my help, and will continue to do so each year. I guess the main thing is for the owner of this piece to enjoy it, and know that they will have a one of a kind carving. No more aluminum carving for me, unless its high quality material. Anyone buying this piece can put the insert carving in anyway they would like it. If they can't get the piece out, email or call me. I'll tell them how to do it. Or send it to me and I'll do it for them. Steven G. Adams...Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:04PM
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   I love the article on Steve Adams' huge nickel. I can really empathize with him on the problems involved working with this gummy aluminum. I carved one myself in 1996. It is carving #131. The first piece I carved in 1996, and was done at the request of Ken Bressett. I believe it was featured in an old Bo-Tales, and my title for this piece is the same as Steve's - "World's largest Hobo Nickel".
   I did not have a milling machine at that time, which would have made it much easier to rough out. So, I opted to use a 4" Makita grinder with some aggressive abrasive discs, and used a large chisel in my Gravermeister to clean it up from there. As I recall, I think I spent about three days carving this piece, but it was done over a period of several weeks. Mine was not as nice as Steve's. I really like the accent nickel carving he put in the hatband. It is a great way to illustrate proportions in a photograph.
   Just a footnote, but when I apprenticed with George Bickley, a now retired jewelry engraver, he told me kerosene was a good lubricant when carving aluminum. If I'd remembered that when I carved my giant nickel, the job might have gone a bit smoother. Ron Landis...Sunday, October 20, 2002 10:58AM

   I am "pickled tink" to have been able to capture Steve's ongoing thoughts as he worked on this project as well as his in-process scans (have you ever seen a more magnificantly detailed ear on a carving?) I am of the opinion that this information will add significantly to the value of the carving for the lucky person who manages to purchase it at FUN2003. Maybe it will be me... EMail:Verne R. Walrafen
Price realized for this carving: Lot#96...$2,227.50, which includes the 10% buyer's fee.

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Link:There Are Other Active Nickel Carvers!
Link:Nickel Carvings From The Kentucky Hills
Link:Now THAT's A Dragon!
Link:Nickel Carvings From The Past
Link:Steve Adams' OHNS FUN2003 Aluminum Carving
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SunRoom: A Six Week PLUS Project
   Ozawkie, Kansas - 1 October 2002 - No... I haven't died but my SunRoom contractor told me they would be finished inside three weeks. NOT TRUE! ...but why am I not surprised? We spent almost full time the last six weeks making sure the construction crew did their work in an acceptable manner. This means we have a long list of everyday tasks that has been put off so creating more SBsubjects will remain on the back burner for a while yet. Don't give up on the old FatMan please! EMail:Verne R. Walrafen

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Nickel Carver's Silver Signature Rounds
   One day when there wasn't anything special on eBay in either of my two favorite search lists; 1) Gallery Mint and 2) Hobo Nickels, I was poking around and ran across a series of one ounce silver rounds with different locomotives on one side and a wonderful blank space on the other side.
   It occurred to me that the blank space was made to order for a cool carving by a modern nickel carver. Why stop at just one... why not everybody? So I sent out mail to all the carvers I had contact information on asking for their interest in such a project. Out of eight such contacts I only had one carver decline.
   So I bought a couple more sets of blank silver rounds and sent each carver two apiece. I think I have five signature pieces back now and
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they are all really nice! One carver felt he "messed up" both of my provided pieces so he purchased several replacement rounds on his own, at his own expense, without telling the old FatMan. I wish he had said something as I would have been glad to have had more sent to him. Anyway... I wanted to share the three shown above and I will eventually get any others I have received scanned and show them to you also.
   August 28, 2002 - When I awoke this morning Sam Alfano had sent me a replacement scan for his silver signature piece which was MUCH better than the one I created. I have a dickens of a time scanning anything with a bright reflective surface. Being of Dutch ancestory I just can't stand to waste anything so I kept my original scan and am showing it to you here on the right. This is not to say that Sam's isn't clearly better than mine because it most certainly is... I just never throw anything out, you can ask my wife! THANKS Sam... your graphic was perfect in quality and precisely the same size as my original. It was VERY easy to use to improve my webpage.
   The main advantage of establishing a corresponding relationship with folks across the nation who have similar interests is the continual sharing of the good things that happen in our lives. The personal photographs and shared jokes like those shown below add a lot to my daily life. Steve tells me that this hefty salmon weighed in at 28# and is his first trophy sized fish that he is having mounted for display.
   Along with that is the sharing of the difficult times of course. Our friend nickel carver Arthur Hutchison lost his Mother this week and we all think of him in his time of sorrow. The fact this is something we must all face... unless we precede our loved ones into the next life ...does not make this time any easier of course. EMail:Verne R. Walrafen
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  • Taking Things On Faith
       I was laboring under the firm conviction that Ron Landis told me that he created the 1794 Pattern obverse die, struck 794 copper strikes and then added stars to it to commence striking the standard issue silver dollar strikes. So... I never went and looked at the pattern and compared it to the standard issue.
       Cliff Bolling always has his eyes open and didn't have the handicap of thinking he already knew something. As a result... he pointed out to me that the pattern obverse seems considerably different than the standard issue. I would agree with him. Even the LIBERTY lettering is smaller on the pattern pieces! Besides, once a die has been hardened for production it is a really tricky process to heat it to soften it, rework it or add design elements, and then reharden it for production. I know in attempting this a person can loose a lot of time and effort attempting to save some time and effort. I'll have to remember to ask Ron about this on my next trip to Eureka Springs.
       Since we are talking about GMM 1794 dollar creations at the moment I think this would be a good time to challenge you a bit. Below is the reason some of us are more than half a bubble off plumb... on the left is a cleaned up version of the scan an eBay Seller has posted with his offering of a GMM 1794 dollar. On the right is the result of Cliff's hard work trying to warp the original scan around so he can decide which die pair was used to strike the piece. Hummm... you tell me... is there a berry below the A of STATES or not? EMail:Verne R. Walrafen
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Progress... I guess... ?:-)
   I now have a new 60GB hard drive installed which brings me up to a total of 100GB of storage... a bit less actually considering how they do their figuring. Of course most of the space used is duplicates of the stuff on the old 40GB disk copied to the new 60GB disk. Two long hard days working to restablish most of the tools I had gotten so used to having at hand.
   Anyway... my Netscape and WindowsME were in a knock-down and drag-out fight with each other and I had to do something. I couldn't send more than a single EMail message without rebooting my gonkulator. So... the result is that I am a total MicroSoft user as far as Browsers and Operating Systems go anyway. Now I can get back to the important stuff!
   By the way... I have always tried to design my ScrapBook webpages so that they would display well for those folks who might be running computer systems with video resolutions of 640 by 480 pixels. I'm just going to have to move on... sorry! From now on I'll only be testing my webpages at video resolution of 800 by 600 pixels and my system will be running at 1024 by 768 pixels. EMail:Verne R. Walrafen
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  • A Plethora Of Die Cracks
       What that means is a superabundance of die cracks. This great dollar strike has three almost identically formed cracks on two separate dies. I love it! The only way I can think of for this specimen to get any better would be to throw a CUD or two into the mix. Large silver pieces with dies falling apart is one of my weaknesses as you all know. Cliff tells me that this specimen is a pairing of his Obverse5 and Reverse6 numbered 1796 dollar dies. EMail:Verne R. Walrafen
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Another Wonderful Critter Carving
   This is "Clark" (L-61) an African Elephant. The "Clark" is for Clark Kent because this guy thinks he's Superman. Don't say anything about the Lion being king of the jungle, as Clark gets irritated very easily, and while he can't fly (even with those ears), he is very strong. He doesn't think much of Tarzan either. "With all the yelling and boss like attitude, who put him in charge anyway?" Clark once heard that at a political convention someone said "I'll kiss your Elephant if you kiss my Ass!" and is just waiting for someone, anyone, to come and try it. While there are lots of elephants, there is only one hand carved "Clark" and with all his modifications and alterations he is still hosted on a beautiful 1913 T-1 XF buffalo nickel. Here's your chance to own an Elephant. Clifford L. Kraft...Sunday Aug-11-02 14:08:55
   Cliff's comments reminds me of something I heard once while attending an exotic animal auction (where they sell bears, big cats, buffalo, camels, zebras, etcetera) and I overheard a fellow say; "There are only two happy days in a bear owner's life... the day he buys the bear and the day he sells the bear!" I've told Cliff many times that I think his niche in the nickel carving avocation is Wildlife subjects. His bears, moose and elephant are stunning. Now he has extended the definition of wildlife a wee bit by carving a distinctly different sort of Link:mammal. EMail:Verne R. Walrafen
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